Call the (+) side of Voc, V, and the (-) side of Voc, 0. Then:
? ? ? ? Vx ? 4 + V ? 20 + V ? 15 = 1???? + Vx ? 15
? ? ? ? Vx ? 5 + Vx ? 15 = V ? 15 + ???
This turns into the following matrix:
? ? ? ? (? - 1???)?Vx + (1??? + 1???)?V = 1????
? ? ? ? (? + 1???)?Vx - 1????V = 0
That matrix solves out as:
? ? ? ? Vx=1.15384615, V=4.61538461
Once you have V, the value of Rth is just the ratio of V to the 15V source times R?, or:
? ? ? ? R??V ? 15V = 6.15384615?
..20We can analyze this circuit using Node Analysis. Let the top of the circuit be V and the bottom be ground
Sum the currents leaving V and set to zero to satisfy KCL
Vx/4 +(V-15)/20Ω +V/20Ω = 0
We know that Vx = (V/20Ω)*5Ω = V/4 because V/20Ω is the current flowing down thru the 15Ω and 5Ω resistors on the right.
Substitute that into the first equation so we can solve for V
(1/4)(V/4) +V/20Ω+V/20Ω = 15/20
V(1/16+2/20) = V(5/80+8/80) = V(13/80) = 60/80 => V = 60/13 volts = Vthev.
Now we know Voc = Vth = V = 60/13V
We can solve for I short circuit = isc which is the current thru a short across the output
With a short, there is no current in the 15 and 5 resistors so Vx = 0 and isc = 15/20 = 0.75A
Thus Rth = Voc/isc = (60/13)/(3/4) = 6.1538Ω
This is legal because we get the same answer by attaching a 20Ω resistor at the output and analyzing the circuit:
V/16+V/20+V/20+V/20 = 15/20 => V(5/80+12/80) = 60/80 => V =60/17 and the current into the added 20Ω resistor at the output and analyzing the circuit:
V/16+V/20+V/20+V/20 = 15/20 => V(5/80+12/80) = 60/80 => V =60/17 and the current into the added 20Ω is then (60/17)/20 = 3/17A
Now we can write 60/17+3/17*Rth= Voc = 60/13 (Voc=Vth)
(60/13-60/17)*17/3 = 6.1538Ω which is the same answer.
Vth = 60/13 volts = 4.6154V
Rth = 80/13 Ω = 6.1538Ω
Notice you can't zero voltage sources or open current sources for analysis when dependent sources are present.
Hope this helps
R thevenin is found by replacing current sources with an open and voltage sources with a short.
When you do that R thevenin = R1 in parallel with R2 + R3 = 10 ohms
Voc can be found by loop analysis. You have two loops Let Vx/4 be the counterclockwise current in loop 1 and i2 the clockwise current in loop 2
Loop 1, let Voc be the voltage across the Vx/4 current source
Voc = 15 - 20(Vx/4 + i2)
Loop 2
15 = 20(i2 + Vx/4) + 20i2
but Vx/ =Voc/4 since Vx is the voltage across the 5 ohm resistor R3 which is 1/4 of Voc
and Voc = 20i2, so Vx = 5I2
thus
15 = 20(i2 +1.25i2) + 20i2 = 65i2
i2 = 15/65
Voc = 20i2 = 300/65= 4.615 volts
So the Thevenin equivalent is a 4.615 volt source with a 10 ohm series resistor
The Norton equivalent is a 0.4615 amp source (= 4.615 volts/10 ohm) in parallel with the 10 resistor
Let;
I1 = Vx/4
V1 = 15V
Calculate;
by voltage divider rule;
Vx = [R3/(R2 + R3)]*Voc
By nodal analysis;
solve for node voltage Voc;
Voc*[(1/R1 + 1/(R2 + R3)] + I1 - V1*(1/R1) = 0
substitute for I1;
Voc*[(1/R1 + 1/(R2 + R3)] + Vx/4 - V1*(1/R1) = 0
substitute for Vx;
Voc*[(1/R1 + 1/(R2 + R3)] + [R3/(R2 + R3)]*(1/4)*Voc - V1*(1/R1) = 0
collect terms;
Voc*{1/R1 + 1/(R2 + R3) + [R3/(R2 + R3)]*(1/4)} - V1*(1/R1) = 0
Voc = [V1*(1/R1)]/{1/R1 + 1/(R2 + R3) + [R3/(R2 + R3)]*(1/4)}
Voc = 4.615385V
Isc = V1*(1/R1) - I1 .... note R2 and R3 are shorted
Vx = Voc*(1/4)
Vx = 1.153846V
I1 = Vx/4
I1 = 0.288462A
Isc = 0.461538A
Rth = Voc/Isc
Rth = 10 Ohms
Thevenin equivalent;
4.616V in series with 10 Ohms ............... <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Norton equivalent;
0.4616A in parallel with 10 Ohms .......... <<<<<<<<<<<<
By test current;
Replace V1 (15V source) with short circuit.
Note that the dependent current does not affect the test current
The circuit is now just two 20 ohm resistors in parallel, so;
Rth = 10 Ohms
same as before.
Find the Thevenin and Norton equivalent circuits for the given network.
For Rthevenin solve in two ways:
Way 1:
Find V of open circuit & I of short circuit
Way 2:
“Kill” the independent source, apply either a test voltage or test current
I tried using nodal and mesh analysis for V open circuit but there were too many variables and the voltage source in series with the resistor confused me... Can someone explain how I'm supposed to do this? I can't figure out way 1 or way 2.The circuit is attached.